[cranfordguest]

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/20 ... al_re.html

[jbken]

I had questions about that:

1) What would the average monthly savings be, presumably in electricity, from putting these solar panels on the library?

2) What would it cost Cranford aside from their portion of county taxes to pay off those $45 million in bonds?

3) If Cranford demurred would it cost the same amount (i.e. the UCIA would find another library to put their solar panels on)?

4) Who is the point person for this project? Someone from UCIA or DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick?

If anyone out there knows it would save me a trip tonight.

[Guest622]

Oh god ... the UCIA is nothing more than a fee churning outfit IMO. How many years would it to recoup $45 million in energy savings? Sounds like nothing more than a bullshit project.

[Guest]

Its a fantastic GREEN JOBS iniative those solar panels will start saving Cranford money in only 30 -40 years.

[Thom. Edison]

$45M for 49 buildings, or $920,000 per building, for solar panels.
It sounds outrageously expensive to me.
What's the lifespan of these solar panels?
Please tell me it's longer than the than the break even period.

[Guest]

Its a fantastic GREEN JOBS iniative those solar panels will start saving Cranford money in only 30 -40 years.

this sounds very similar to the new (?) sewage treatment plant by the rahway valley authority which spent millions on it and just recently abondoned the project saying it isn't cost feasible. Every one on the rahway valley sewage authority board should resign. It has cost the taxpayers millions upon millions of dollars and got nothing for it.

[guest]

$45M for 49 buildings, or $920,000 per building, for solar panels.
It sounds outrageously expensive to me.
What's the lifespan of these solar panels?
Please tell me it's longer than the than the break even period.

Solar panels should last 20-25 years
Inverters can last 10-20 depending on what they buy.
Who would get the SREC's which currently sell for $650.00 each in NJ.
Solar sytems run $4.00-4.75 per watt.
The roof at the community center would maybe support a solar system capable of generating maybe 1/3 of its electric usage.

[Guest]

$45M for 49 buildings, or $920,000 per building, for solar panels.
It sounds outrageously expensive to me.
What's the lifespan of these solar panels?
Please tell me it's longer than the than the break even period.

Solar panels should last 20-25 years
Inverters can last 10-20 depending on what they buy.
Who would get the SREC's which currently sell for $650.00 each in NJ.
Solar sytems run $4.00-4.75 per watt.
The roof at the community center would maybe support a solar system capable of generating maybe 1/3 of its electric usage.

please, someone out there (politicians/officials) stop spending our money!!

You have just wasted millions of taxpayer money on a sewage treatment plant that is not of any use.

[guest]

$45M for 49 buildings, or $920,000 per building, for solar panels.
It sounds outrageously expensive to me.
What's the lifespan of these solar panels?
Please tell me it's longer than the than the break even period.

Solar panels should last 20-25 years
Inverters can last 10-20 depending on what they buy.
Who would get the SREC's which currently sell for $650.00 each in NJ.
Solar sytems run $4.00-4.75 per watt.
The roof at the community center would maybe support a solar system capable of generating maybe 1/3 of its electric usage.

please, someone out there (politicians/officials) stop spending our money!!

You have just wasted millions of taxpayer money on a sewage treatment plant that is not of any use.

That's ok. They can always increase property taxes. Oh, it's capped? They can always ask for fees outside of taxes.

[Guest]

$45M for 49 buildings, or $920,000 per building, for solar panels.
It sounds outrageously expensive to me.
What's the lifespan of these solar panels?
Please tell me it's longer than the than the break even period.

Has the county priced Chinese solar panels?

Rutgers' Chinese Solar Panels Show Clean-Energy Shift

At Rutgers University in New Jersey, 7,600 panels convert sunlight into electricity, saving some $200,000 in energy costs this year in the biggest solar-power experiment at a U.S. college.

Yingli Green Energy Holding Co., China’s second-largest solar-panel maker, supplied the $10 million project. Yingli is one of several Chinese manufacturers that have slashed costs to reduce global prices for solar modules by about 50 percent in two years. The drive made them more affordable for buyers from Rutgers to Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the biggest U.S. retailer.

“It’s all about economics,” said Chief Executive Officer Al Bucknam of SunDurance Energy, the South Plainfield, New Jersey, installer that picked Yingli over Western competitors on price and helped sell the deal to Rutgers as a money-saver.

China is slashing prices and moving to dominate solar energy in the way Japanese manufacturers ruled consumer electronics decades ago. The price declines inch the cost of solar energy toward what’s called grid parity, or renewable electricity at the same prices charged for conventional power.

“The ability of the Chinese to manufacture at scale is a very big reason why the cost of these panels has come down,” said Kathleen A. McGinty at venture capital firm Element Partners in Radnor, Pennsylvania. “They’re a big part of the reason why we can even start to talk about grid parity.”

more - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-2 ... r-you.html

[jbken]

Oh god ... the UCIA is nothing more than a fee churning outfit IMO. How many years would it to recoup $45 million in energy savings? Sounds like nothing more than a bullshit project.

It is, though it's being questioned:
http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/20 ... r_pla.html

And besides, if it's such a sweet deal, why can't Cranford do it on their own.

Another question is how much DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick & Cole, LLP, counsel to the UCIA, will make from it. My guess, based on prior projects that passed through the UCIA, is about $500,000. To date, without one solar panel being put up or one building identified, this project has cost $233,819, including $76,519 to DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick & Cole, LLP, $149,350 to PMK/BSG Group, and $7,950 to the Union County Alliance.

What will happen is that $45 million in bonds will be sold to pay private firms to install the panels. Those firms will then pay off the debt service with money they get from charging Cranford and other towns for electricity, which the
towns would be obligated to purchase from them. That electricity charge will need to be enough to pay off the debt and make a profit for the firms so Cranford is essentially paying off the bonds anyway.

However, technically this would not be debt service which means it would fall under the 2% tax-cap recently enacted. Were Cranford to bond to pay for the solar panels that debt service would be exempt from the cap.

It's a scheme that makes absolutely no fiscal sense except for DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick & Cole, LLP or anyone seeking campaign contributions from DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick & Cole, LLP, which the executive director of the UCIA (Charlotte
DeFilippo) certainly is in her role as Chairman of the Union County Democratic Committee.

[Guest]

You "think", you "guess", come back when you have some "facts".

PS those 2 letters to the editor in the Chronicle today were HILARIOUS. I felt just like I was back in high school!

[Guest]

You "think", you "guess", come back when you have some "facts".

PS those 2 letters to the editor in the Chronicle today were HILARIOUS. I felt just like I was back in high school!

It all depends. For example, I'm guessing the JBKen and his ilk would be all over this project if the freeholders were republicans. It just so happens that the republican Morris County Board of Chosen Freeholders is sponsoring the same program. At some point we need to get beyond the politics and take some serious steps forward towards decreasing our dependence on foreign oil. If this project is break even or better for Cranford, we should do it.

We risk being left behind on some potentially good initiatives because of partisan politics.

[jbken]

You "think", you "guess", come back when you have some "facts".

I'm back.

DeCotiis, Fitzptrick is bobbing for suckers so they can steal more money from taxpayers. In this case, you'll get solar panels for the library, pay much more for electricity (which would be included under the cap since it wouldn't be as if you'd bonded for it and it was counted as debt) and have to endure a BJ ribbon-cutting speech,

PS those 2 letters to the editor in the Chronicle today were HILARIOUS. I felt just like I was back in high school!

Not up on the Kowalski family tree but isn't Edwin R. BJ's father? I was under the impression that BJ was either single or living in sin otherwise I wouldn't have.... but I've said too much.

[jbken]

You "think", you "guess", come back when you have some "facts".

PS those 2 letters to the editor in the Chronicle today were HILARIOUS. I felt just like I was back in high school!

It all depends. For example, I'm guessing the JBKen and his ilk would be all over this project if the freeholders were republicans. It just so happens that the republican Morris County Board of Chosen Freeholders is sponsoring the same program. At some point we need to get beyond the politics and take some serious steps forward towards decreasing our dependence on foreign oil. If this project is break even or better for Cranford, we should do it.

We risk being left behind on some potentially good initiatives because of partisan politics.

So how much did DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick make off that Morris deal?

[Guest]

You "think", you "guess", come back when you have some "facts".

PS those 2 letters to the editor in the Chronicle today were HILARIOUS. I felt just like I was back in high school!

It all depends. For example, I'm guessing the JBKen and his ilk would be all over this project if the freeholders were republicans. It just so happens that the republican Morris County Board of Chosen Freeholders is sponsoring the same program. At some point we need to get beyond the politics and take some serious steps forward towards decreasing our dependence on foreign oil. If this project is break even or better for Cranford, we should do it.

We risk being left behind on some potentially good initiatives because of partisan politics.

So how much did DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick make off that Morris deal?

Hack. So your problem is just with DeCotis Fitzpatrick not with solar panel projects in general? Your problem is with solar panel projects sponsored by Dem freeholder Boards or all projects.

[Guest]

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/07/with_questions_of_financial_re.html

It looks like everyone's going solar, except us! Let's see if we opt out for political reasons. The Morris County project looks very similar to the Union County initiative. Can anyone (without a grudge) add anything to this discussion. I think the project sounds great.


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/1 ... 3m_co.html

http://www.app.com/article/20100721/GET ... ers-nation

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/02/26/V ... ns_Turn_T/

http://solarpowerpanels.ws/solar-power/ ... wer-system

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2008 ... solar.html

[jbken]

Hack. So your problem is just with DeCotis Fitzpatrick not with solar panel projects in general? Your problem is with solar panel projects sponsored by Dem freeholder Boards or all projects.

Prick. My problem is with 7-day furloughs for Cranford employees (and their confusion as to why it's happening) because so much tax revenue has to be funneled to connected campaign donors who make up these bullshit projects. If solar panels on the library makes sense then bond for it. Why do Dem donors need to be repaid with Cranford tax dollars.

This project is so fucked they don't even come up with numbers on the savings. They just trot out words like 'solar' and 'green' and all you tree-hugging dolts salivate like you were glimpsing your first pussy. Let's see the spreadsheet.

[Guest]

You "think", you "guess", come back when you have some "facts".

PS those 2 letters to the editor in the Chronicle today were HILARIOUS. I felt just like I was back in high school!

Thats because you just dropped out of high school last year!

[jbken]

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/07/with_questions_of_financial_re.html

It looks like everyone's going solar, except us! Let's see if we opt out for political reasons. The Morris County project looks very similar to the Union County initiative. Can anyone (without a grudge) add anything to this discussion. I think the project sounds great.


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/1 ... 3m_co.html

http://www.app.com/article/20100721/GET ... ers-nation

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/02/26/V ... ns_Turn_T/

http://solarpowerpanels.ws/solar-power/ ... wer-system

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2008 ... solar.html

Is this on the clock?
If not then you're wasting your time if you want to sow grass roots support here.

[Guest]

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/07/with_questions_of_financial_re.html

It looks like everyone's going solar, except us! Let's see if we opt out for political reasons. The Morris County project looks very similar to the Union County initiative. Can anyone (without a grudge) add anything to this discussion. I think the project sounds great.


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/1 ... 3m_co.html

http://www.app.com/article/20100721/GET ... ers-nation

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/02/26/V ... ns_Turn_T/

http://solarpowerpanels.ws/solar-power/ ... wer-system

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2008 ... solar.html

Is this on the clock?
If not then you're wasting your time if you want to sow grass roots support here.

Yup on the clock. I sell pensions just like you. Cranford employees are being furloughed because we need turf and soccer fields. Face it little man, if the Freeholders were nOT doing these projects, you'd criticize them for that.

[guest]

Have the solar company lease the roof and air space. They get all the REC's and tax credits. Make them responsible for the roof. Cranford saves a few dollars on the energy cost, joins the "green" revolution, and does it without costing the taxpayers one cent. Usually after 15 yeas when the REC's no longer exist the solar company will walk away and give whoever's roof the system is on, the system. Solar at no cost.
There is no reason for taxpayers to spend a penny to have solar panels installed.

[jbken]

Yup on the clock. I sell pensions just like you. Cranford employees are being furloughed because we need turf and soccer fields. Face it little man, if the Freeholders were nOT doing these projects, you'd criticize them for that.

Little man? That's what you got? You think you've hit upon my achilles hell there, Paris?

Anyway, this year's furloughs and next year's layoffs are a direct result of spineless politicians, not willing to antagonize their campaign donors, keeping the spigots open on these make-work projects. I would be criticizing the freeholders if they didn't do these projects and simply gave DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick $20,000 a month and called it 'General File' (which they're doing).

These leeches can keep taking their vig as long as $300,000 worth of signs on Rte. 22 paid for by PMK/BSG, DeCotiis, Capece, and so on can con voters into keeping the puppets on stage.

[Guest]

Hack. So your problem is just with DeCotis Fitzpatrick not with solar panel projects in general? Your problem is with solar panel projects sponsored by Dem freeholder Boards or all projects.

Prick. My problem is with 7-day furloughs for Cranford employees (and their confusion as to why it's happening) because so much tax revenue has to be funneled to connected campaign donors who make up these bullshit projects. If solar panels on the library makes sense then bond for it. Why do Dem donors need to be repaid with Cranford tax dollars.

This project is so fucked they don't even come up with numbers on the savings. They just trot out words like 'solar' and 'green' and all you tree-hugging dolts salivate like you were glimpsing your first pussy. Let's see the spreadsheet.

A. the furloughs are happening becasue the REPUBLICAN controlled committee chose to spend over 2 mill on a soccer field that they outbid another potential buyer for who was going to get it it for 1.2 mill but HEY we needed it more. it has nothing to do with Democrats and everything to do with Birchwood Just wait. They also plan to turf it.

[Guest]

JBKen curses, he's SO COOL

[jbken]

Hack. So your problem is just with DeCotis Fitzpatrick not with solar panel projects in general? Your problem is with solar panel projects sponsored by Dem freeholder Boards or all projects.

Prick. My problem is with 7-day furloughs for Cranford employees (and their confusion as to why it's happening) because so much tax revenue has to be funneled to connected campaign donors who make up these bullshit projects. If solar panels on the library makes sense then bond for it. Why do Dem donors need to be repaid with Cranford tax dollars.

This project is so fucked they don't even come up with numbers on the savings. They just trot out words like 'solar' and 'green' and all you tree-hugging dolts salivate like you were glimpsing your first pussy. Let's see the spreadsheet.

A. the furloughs are happening becasue the REPUBLICAN controlled committee chose to spend over 2 mill on a soccer field that they outbid another potential buyer for who was going to get it it for 1.2 mill but HEY we needed it more. it has nothing to do with Democrats and everything to do with Birchwood Just wait. They also plan to turf it.

A. No, there are furloughs because Cranford had to stay within the cap and they chose to reduce the salary items. They didn't go with the county method of just putting down a lower number because nobody checks (i.e. County Manager's salary line item which was $740k though employee list totaled $1,047k). Bonding is separate.

B. You couldn't think of a B.?

[jbken]

JBKen curses, he's SO COOL

It's nothing to be proud of, son.

It's just that there's an element that only understands one way.

[Guest]

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/07/with_questions_of_financial_re.html

It looks like everyone's going solar, except us! Let's see if we opt out for political reasons. The Morris County project looks very similar to the Union County initiative. Can anyone (without a grudge) add anything to this discussion. I think the project sounds great.


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/1 ... 3m_co.html

http://www.app.com/article/20100721/GET ... ers-nation

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/02/26/V ... ns_Turn_T/

http://solarpowerpanels.ws/solar-power/ ... wer-system

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2008 ... solar.html

This is my post and I am wondering what others think of these solar projects. Someone who does not have grudge against Union County. I think we need to reduce dependance on oil and see solar and other green technolgies implemented. I think it can be a source of economic activity. Does anyone know? Is the Morris project like the UC project.

[Guest]

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/07/with_questions_of_financial_re.html

It looks like everyone's going solar, except us! Let's see if we opt out for political reasons. The Morris County project looks very similar to the Union County initiative. Can anyone (without a grudge) add anything to this discussion. I think the project sounds great.


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/1 ... 3m_co.html

http://www.app.com/article/20100721/GET ... ers-nation

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/02/26/V ... ns_Turn_T/

http://solarpowerpanels.ws/solar-power/ ... wer-system

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2008 ... solar.html

This is my post and I am wondering what others think of these solar projects. Someone who does not have grudge against Union County. I think we need to reduce dependance on oil and see solar and other green technolgies implemented. I think it can be a source of economic activity. Does anyone know? Is the Morris project like the UC project.

I think that our gov't needs to stop spending money. Take a look at the rahway valley sewage authority and the millions in tax dollar money that they just wasted by building a sewage treatment plant that won't save us a dime. It will never open. Our national, state and local gov'ts have to stop spending--we don't have the money anymore.

[Guest]

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/07/with_questions_of_financial_re.html

It looks like everyone's going solar, except us! Let's see if we opt out for political reasons. The Morris County project looks very similar to the Union County initiative. Can anyone (without a grudge) add anything to this discussion. I think the project sounds great.


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/1 ... 3m_co.html

http://www.app.com/article/20100721/GET ... ers-nation

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/02/26/V ... ns_Turn_T/

http://solarpowerpanels.ws/solar-power/ ... wer-system

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2008 ... solar.html

I think that the township committee will give it a serious look, esp. since they have some more time to make a decision. I know they've talked about solar panels in the past.

[Guest]

JBKen curses, he's SO COOL

It's nothing to be proud of, son.

It's just that there's an element that only understands one way.

and that element would be you and yours. No one else curses here as much and certainly not the F word. Grow up please, it's sophomoric.

[cranfordguest]

Another question is how much the firm of DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick & Cole, LLP, counsel to the UCIA, will make from it. My guess, based on prior projects that passed through the UCIA, is about $500,000. To date, without one solar panel being put up or one building identified, this project has cost $233,819, including $76,519 to DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick & Cole, LLP, $149,350 to PMK/BSG Group, and $7,950 to the Union County Alliance.

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/20 ... solar.html

[Guest]

Another question is how much the firm of DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick & Cole, LLP, counsel to the UCIA, will make from it. My guess, based on prior projects that passed through the UCIA, is about $500,000. To date, without one solar panel being put up or one building identified, this project has cost $233,819, including $76,519 to DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick & Cole, LLP, $149,350 to PMK/BSG Group, and $7,950 to the Union County Alliance.

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/20 ... solar.html

$500,000 the same amt Cranford has in its annual budget for attorneys like Donovan's firm

[jbken]

$500,000 the same amt Cranford has in its annual budget for attorneys like Donovan's firm

Good point. What's in the total annual budget for Cranford, the county through only the UCIA, spends on one of several projects:
http://media.nj.com/njv_johnbury/other/uciadecot%20totals.xls

and the beat goes on:
http://www.ucianj.org/PDF/bill%20list%202010%2007-07-10.pdf

[Guest]

I am not sure what your post meant, I only understand English, but I THINK you are comparing a legal budget for nearly 600,000 to the legal budget of 22,000?

[guest]

More on the solar panel that is being forced on us Cranford folks who have to work hard for every tax dollar...

It is a scheme that makes absolutely no fiscal sense except for DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick or anyone seeking campaign contributions from DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick*, which the executive director of the Union County Improvement Authority certainly is in her other job as Chairman of the Union County Democratic Committee.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_johnbury/2010/07 ... means.html

[Guest]

nothing is being forced on anyone although amping up the drama is your stock in trade, watchpuppy.

[guest]

nothing is being forced on anyone although amping up the drama is your stock in trade, watchpuppy.

It is not being forced on anyone until you just wake up and find yourself paying for it. LOL!

[Guest]

It's not being forced on anyone. Unlike the 2 million dollar soccer field I am being forced to pay for thanks to our Republican TC, you know?

[Guest]

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/07/with_questions_of_financial_re.html

Better of buying old schools & selling off to real estate investors? Will taxes go down this year without sewage bill in our taxes,do we still have to pay both?

[guest]

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/07/with_questions_of_financial_re.html

Better of buying old schools & selling off to real estate investors? Will taxes go down this year without sewage bill in our taxes,do we still have to pay both?

No, the sewage treatment is now free.

[Guest]

More on the solar panel that is being forced on us Cranford folks who have to work hard for every tax dollar...

It is a scheme that makes absolutely no fiscal sense except for DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick or anyone seeking campaign contributions from DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick*, which the executive director of the Union County Improvement Authority certainly is in her other job as Chairman of the Union County Democratic Committee.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_johnbury/2010/07 ... means.html

How is it being forced. It appears to be voluntary!

[Guest]

Cranford is getting solar panels at the library and community center!

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/20 ... to_ucia_so.

[jbken]

Cranford is getting solar panels at the library and community center!

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/20 ... to_ucia_so.

That link doesn't seem to work, but this one might:
http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/08/cranford_to_sign_on_to_ucia_so.html

It will be interesting to hear what turned them.

[Guest]

Cranford is getting solar panels at the library and community center!

http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/20 ... to_ucia_so.

That link doesn't seem to work, but this one might:
http://www.nj.com/cranford/index.ssf/2010/08/cranford_to_sign_on_to_ucia_so.html

It will be interesting to hear what turned them.

There is no downside to Cranford participating.

[jbken]

There is no downside to Cranford participating.

So you're saying Cranford is pulling out of Union County and won't be responsible for their part of those bonds when the SREC sheme blows up?

If you much prefer looking at solar panels and cell towers than trees and sky then I guess you'll be in hog heaven.

And you do understand that those solar panels are not manufactured using solar energy, right? There will be more fossil fuel wasted on putting those things up but at least DeCotiis will make their money now that Christie and the state isn't using them.

[Guest]

There is no downside to Cranford participating.

So you're saying Cranford is pulling out of Union County and won't be responsible for their part of those bonds when the SREC sheme blows up?

If you much prefer looking at solar panels and cell towers than trees and sky then I guess you'll be in hog heaven.

And you do understand that those solar panels are not manufactured using solar energy, right? There will be more fossil fuel wasted on putting those things up but at least DeCotiis will make their money now that Christie and the state isn't using them.

I guess you like living in the stone age.

[Guest]

There is no downside to Cranford participating.

So you're saying Cranford is pulling out of Union County and won't be responsible for their part of those bonds when the SREC sheme blows up?

If you much prefer looking at solar panels and cell towers than trees and sky then I guess you'll be in hog heaven.

And you do understand that those solar panels are not manufactured using solar energy, right? There will be more fossil fuel wasted on putting those things up but at least DeCotiis will make their money now that Christie and the state isn't using them.

jbken lives in a fantasy world where every County program is a half-baked scheme that blows up. Its a shame that his organization has yet to uncover anything over its many years that even comes close to the failures that he wishes for. It must be a very hard life wishing for everything to go wrong.

[Guest]

There is no downside to Cranford participating.

So you're saying Cranford is pulling out of Union County and won't be responsible for their part of those bonds when the SREC sheme blows up?

If you much prefer looking at solar panels and cell towers than trees and sky then I guess you'll be in hog heaven.

And you do understand that those solar panels are not manufactured using solar energy, right? There will be more fossil fuel wasted on putting those things up but at least DeCotiis will make their money now that Christie and the state isn't using them.

jbken lives in a fantasy world where every County program is a half-baked scheme that blows up. Its a shame that his organization has yet to uncover anything over its many years that even comes close to the failures that he wishes for. It must be a very hard life wishing for everything to go wrong.

I wish jbken and pals would investigate the rahway valley sewage authority and all of the millions spent on a new facility that won't be used. It's obvious what the watchdogs are--just an arm of the republican party.

[guest]

There is no downside to Cranford participating.

So you're saying Cranford is pulling out of Union County and won't be responsible for their part of those bonds when the SREC sheme blows up?

If you much prefer looking at solar panels and cell towers than trees and sky then I guess you'll be in hog heaven.

And you do understand that those solar panels are not manufactured using solar energy, right? There will be more fossil fuel wasted on putting those things up but at least DeCotiis will make their money now that Christie and the state isn't using them.

Solar panels will not be visable from the ground.
Who is actually getting the SREC's? Solar is very expensive to install so without the SREC's, 30% grants and depreciation it doesn't make fiscal sense. The township can write of the depreciaton so unless the roof is being leased to the solar company and Cranford is entering a power purchase ageement it will cost us a fortune and only the Solar company will benefit.